...but are they “Dvorak” grumpy?

No, they aren’t “Dvorak” grumpy (as in John C. Dvorak). Give them a few years and maybe. In the mean time, you’ll have to put up with what I would call mildly grumpy middle-aged geeks. Actually, the podcast is quite enjoyable and has become part of my weekly rotation. Jason and Brian add some useful (and sometimes colorful) context to the happenings in the tech industry while Dave Bittner provides commentary on security among other contributions. If you are looking for some entertaining musings, this is a must listen. It’s one of the best. Just don’t expect Statler and Waldorf to show up.